MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE CHILDREN’S SERVICES SELECT COMMITTEE HELD AT COUNTY HALL, NEWPORT, ISLE OF WIGHT ON THURSDAY, 17 MARCH 2005 COMMENCING AT 9.30 AM

 

Present :

 

Mr J F Howe (Chairman), Mrs B D Clough, Mr C M Gauntlett, Mr C R Hancock, Mr P D Joyce, Mr R G Mazillius, Mrs L Peacey-Wilcox, Mr K Pearson, Mr I R Stephens

 

Co-opted (voting) :

 

Sister Patricia, Archdeacon Dr T Reader, Mr A Wood

 

Portfolio Holder :

 

Mrs J L Wareham

 

Also present (non-voting) :

 

Mr A C Bartlett, Mr J A Bowker, Mr M J Cunningham, Mrs E Oulton, Mr R C Richards, Mr A A Taylor, Mr D G Williams

 

 


 

 


56.              MINUTES

 

The Minutes of the meeting held on 17 February 2005 were confirmed.

 

57.              DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

 

Mr R G Mazillius declared a personal interest in Minute 60 – The future of Education and Training on the Island, as his son’s business was involved in providing services in connection with school buildings.

 

58.              PUBLIC QUESTION TIME

 

Written questions were submitted by Deborah Hart, Cheryl Blake, Maureen Franklin, Wendy Welsford and Chris Welsford (PQ11/05) all in relation to school organisation. The questions and responses given are contained in the Public Question Register. A question was also submitted by Mrs R Trodd in also relation to school organisation. A written response was to be provided following the meeting. In view of the debate to be held later in the meeting on this topic the Chairman advised the questioners that they would be invited to ask any relevant supplementary questions following this.

 

Mrs M Swan also asked a question in relation to the number of persons employed by the LEA and the number of pupils in Island schools. The Head of Planning and Resources indicated that this information had been outlined in the response provided when the question had been raised at the 22 February 2005 Council meeting.  There were approximately 19,500 pupils but he would need to confirm the number of staff.

 

59.              FORWARD PLAN

 

The Head of Select Committee and Review Team reported that the only item of relevance to the Select Committee contained within the Forward Plan for March 2005 to June 2005 related to school organisation which was to be considered by the Executive on 24 March 2005.

 

60.              THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING ON THE ISLAND

 

The Chairman welcomed Mr S Clarke, Chief Executive of Four S and Mr D Gamble, Joint Head of Education and School Organisation from Milton Keynes Council.

 

The Select Committee had before it the report of the Portfolio Holder for Children’s Services which was to be considered by the Executive on 24 March 2005.  Mr S Clarke gave an outline of findings contained on the Strategic Options report produced by Four S on school organisation.  He explained that there was a need for all stakeholders to work together to improve school standards.  The strong link between school attainment and economic development was also stressed.

 

The review undertaken by Four S highlighted that the accountability of each partner required improvement.  The existing school structure did not enable a sustainable approach to be developed on pupil achievement.  There were ongoing difficulties with recruitment into Island schools beyond the normal ‘Island Factor’.  Teachers were trained nationally in either the secondary or primary sector and this created difficulties for staff movement between two tier and three tier systems.  Whilst collaborative working on post 16 had shown some pressure the pace of improvement was not sufficient and consistent.  It was accepted that cluster working was having some impact on identifying best practice.  Any change in the organisation of schools would still enable cluster working to be developed further as one of the elements in an overall framework.

 

Mr Clarke indicated that issues relating to pupil behaviour had not been specifically raised during the consultation process.  A 2 tier system could be beneficial in giving increased opportunities for schools to help develop pupils from age 11 without the difficulties created through a change in schools at 13.

 

Mr D Gamble indicated that Milton Keynes was not making such a substantial change to its school organisation as on the Island.  A further review of the effectiveness of the changes being made to part of its system was however anticipated in the future.  The changes, which would be introduced from September 2005, would mean that Milton Keynes would have 10 Secondary schools with 35 schools with age range 4 – 12, 17 for 8 – 12 and 37 for 4 – 8.  Whilst for some areas there would be two transitions for pupils these were being aligned to National Curriculum Key Stages. Changes were being introduced due to standards in Milton Keynes being lower than that in other comparable authorities.  Difficulties were also being encountered with recruitment of staff.  Mr Gamble outlined the consultative process utilised and how key stakeholders were engaged on the review leading into planning and implementation stages.

 

The Overview and Scrutiny Committee at Milton Keynes was fully involved in all the processes through a small Sub Committee which looked at the details of implementation at each stage.  Specific working parties involving Headteachers, Governors and Officers were established to consider implications for human resources, Diocesan issues, Finance, transition management and accommodation.  Funding was made available to compensate schools for staff time lost in this work.  A communication strategy was developed which identified a framework to which all publicity was linked.  An important element in overcoming concerns of staff was a specific fund to cover the transition period.  This was also part of an overall recruitment and retention package.  Milton Keynes Council had also recognised the importance of small schools and had drawn up a policy on these outlining how these would be supported. A co-ordinator for small schools had been appointed to provide advice to these and help co-ordinate and develop joint working.

The importance of good working relationships between the Council, the Department for Education and Skills and the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister had enabled works to be funded through normal capital funding grants.  Additional revenue expenditure would be met from the LEA schools budget for the four transition years during which time a review of funding arrangements for schools would have been undertaken.  In agreeing to the changes Milton Keynes Council had been aware of the positive impact on school attainment that had been in Enfield and Buckinghamshire following similar school reorganisation.

 

The Select Committee noted that post 16 education was not an issue in Milton Keynes and would continue to be delivered by its secondary schools.

 

The disparity between individual schools Section 10 Ofsted reports and overall school attainment also appeared to be an issue in Milton Keynes as it was on the Island.

 

The Select Committee then discussed the report and recommendations that were to be considered by the Executive.

 

The projected forecast for the Island school population was raised.  This indicated falling rolls over the next 8 years despite predictions on known housing development during this time.  The Portfolio Holder highlighted that the viability of small schools was a major issue that had to be addressed.  She explained that no decision had been taken by the Council to close any school on the Island.  If the Executive agreed to the recommendations then a formal consultation process would have to be carried out.  The final decision regarding any changes would be for the School Organisation Committee, which comprised of representatives of School Groups, Diocesan Authorities and the LEA.  Members discussed the important part played by schools and their impact in local communities, particularly rural areas. The Portfolio Holder believed that the ability to incorporate changes envisaged as part of “Every Child Matters”, including extended schools, and greater community usage in any changes should not be overlooked.

 

The Select Committee was advised of the increasing difficulties in teachers being able to engage in appropriate training relevant to primary or secondary education due to the three tier system.  This made it very difficult for involvement in the School Improvement Programme.

 

The importance in accessing relevant capital funding to any changes to school organisation was stressed.  Some funding was only available on a bid basis and if the deadline was missed this could create a delay of up to 2 years.  Also a more structured approach could be adopted if bids were submitted by the LEA alongside those of the Diocesan Authorities.

 

The Select Committee noted the importance of ensuring that all stakeholders were kept fully appraised of what was happening on school organisation.  It was vital that there was clarity over the processes and associated timetable.  It was also important that full Council had a debate on school organisation.

 

            RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE EXECUTIVE

 

1.      All reports concerning school organisation be brought to the Select Committee by the Portfolio Holder before going to the Executive to demonstrate accountability, transparency and full member engagement.

 

2.      The Executive be recommended that a scheme be developed to provide a transitional protection for staff if it decides to adopt the recommendations from Four S and that this scheme be brought back to the Select Committee within 6 months.

 

3.      A specific communications strategy be developed for ensuring that all stakeholders are kept fully aware of actions being taken on school organisation.

 

4.      A date be set by which time schools, the Council and the Learning and Skills Council should have created a collective vision for the Island education service.

 

5.      A debate on the future organisation of Island schools be held by the full Council following the May 2005 elections.

 

6.      If the Executive approves the recommendations contained in the report to be considered on 24 March an information leaflet be distributed to all Island households explaining the stage reached and the processes that will follow as a result.

 

61.              QUARTERLY PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT REPORT – QUARTER 3 2004-05

 

Due to the length of time taken to fully debate the previous item on school organisation it was agreed to defer the report on the Quarterly Performance Management Report to the next meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CHAIRMAN