POLICY COMMISSION MEETING
Meeting |
Policy Commission
for Economy, Tourism, Regeneration and Transport |
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Ref |
E.PC.21/9/05 |
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Date |
21 September 2005 |
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Time |
18.00hrs |
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Place |
Committee Room 1,
County Hall, Newport |
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Purpose of meeting |
Formal public meeting |
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Attendance |
Commission |
Cllrs George Brown (Commissioner), Henry Adams, Ivan Bulwer, Jonathan
Fitzgerald-Bond, Charles Hancock, John Hobart, Lora Peacey-Wilcox |
Cabinet |
Cllr Dawn Cousins – Cabinet Member for Care, Health and Housing Cllr Barry Abraham – Cabinet Members for Safer Communities |
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Secretariat |
Cllr David Pugh Cllr Alan Wells |
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Other Councillors |
Cllr David Williams -
Commissioner, Policy Commission for Safer Communities |
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Officers |
Mr Gareth Hughes Mr Stephen Matthews Miss Louise Biggs, Overview and Scrutiny (O&S) Team Miss April West, O&S Team |
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Stake holders |
Mr Steve Porter Mr David Woracker |
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Apologies |
None |
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Agenda Items |
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1. To
receive evidence from Cllr J S Fitzgerald-Bond |
Key points: Ø The aim of the scheme is to create an
affordable annual permit. Ø In relation to the £50 parking permit,
several assumptions were described by Cllr Fitzgerald Bond. The permit could: o
Be valid for
stays up to 4 hours per visit to a car park o
Be valid only
for council car parks (with possible exceptions as determined by the review) o
Be priced £50
per year (£35 per year concessionary rate) o
Not protect
permit holders from existing penalties o
Not guarantee
a parking space o
Be
non-transferable o
Be
replaceable if lost (at a charge of £10) o
Be partially
redeemable (for a £10 fee) Ø A cost to the Council of £450,000 would be
the worst case scenario, based on the above assumptions. Ø All car parks can be seen as short stay car
parks, although some have a longer stay extension to this. Ø In the UK, the cost of bus and train fares
over time has increased and the cost of car use has decreased. |
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2. To
receive a Evidence from Mr Gareth Hughes |
Key points: Mr Hughes gave a power point presentation containing the following
key points: Ø Subject to several assumptions and the
results of a car parking survey, the proportion of income lost depending upon
frequency of visit and amount spent on car park fees has been calculated. The
assumptions are that: o
The demand
for on-street parking will remain unaffected. o
The increase
in car parking income during summer months is due to tourists. o
Usage
patterns are otherwise unchanged. Ø The possible introduction of a £1 bus ticket
may affect existing permit sales. Ø The cost to the Council of an ‘all day’
permit is predicted at 1.1 million. Ø There has been no price rise in car parking
fees since August 2003 Ø The exact demand for the permits is not yet
known although the convenience factor may lead to an increased take-up Ø The projected sales for an off-street
permit with current prices = 6,556 and with a current prices but four hours
maximum stay = 5,752 |
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3. To
receive evidence from Mr Stephen Matthews |
Key points: Ø Making car parking less expensive is not
nationally ‘normal’ but this needs to be looked at in the context of other
policies, economic prosperity and regeneration. Ø One of the most difficult questions to
address will be whether the permits change travel patterns Ø The government have set targets for
reducing traffic growth, limiting growth to 3% per year. This target is set out in the Local
Transport Plan 2 (LTP2) Ø Monitoring and surveys will be required to
understand the impact of the permit. Ø Visitors find current car park prices very
reasonable. Ø There will be a cost of changing the signs
in all the car parks and a very clear explanation of exactly what the permits
entitle the holder to will need to be made. Ø The council could re-invest monies received
from the permit into the highways network. Ø The permit would not guarantee a car
parking space for holders. Ø Does the Council wish to create
multi-storey car parks in order to provide more space? Ø There is a need to find alternative ways to
administer car parks. Ø People will continue to use the highways
network until the delay becomes unacceptable to them. Ø The permit may encourage short stay users
to stay longer thus reducing the turnover of short stay car parking spaces. Ø The Council may need to consider alternative
ways of administering car parks. Ø The permits would not increase the number
of vehicles on the road but may change the times at which people make their
journeys. It is up to demand
management techniques to control this. |
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4. To
receive evidence from Cllr David Williams |
Cllr Williams gave evidence on his commission’s project on
decriminalised parking: Ø There may be fewer off-street car parking
spaces available. |
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5. To
receive evidence from Mr David Woracker, IW Transport 2000 |
Mr Woracker gave a power point presentation containing the following
key points: Ø Car parking usually has an negative price
elasticity (the change in price of parking will result in a less than
proportional shift in demand for parking). Ø There is a need to make it clear as to what exactly the permit
entitles the holder to, e.g. on-street vs. off-street parking. Ø All
transport decisions have implications and so all possible consequences of
introducing a £50 parking permit must be considered, such as a modal shift
away from walking and bus usage and an increase in congestion. Ø If the permit only allowed 4 hours parking
people may stay for 4 hours and then move to another car park (‘musical car
parks’) thus increasing congestion. Ø Variable message signs are a short term and
expensive measure to counteract congestion. Ø Price elasticity can be defined as a ratio of the percentage change in quantity demanded to the percentage change in price. If this ration is less than 1, then the (proportional) change in demand is less than the change in price and the product or service is said to be price inelastic, as is the case with public transport. The £1 bus fare has an elasticity of less than -1. What is the elasticity of demand for Council car parks and is there evidence that is more than -1? Ø Keeping tariffs simple will reduce the cost
of coin counting. E.g. rather than charging £1.70, charge £2. Ø Should the number of car parks in Newport
be decreased in order to encourage people to use local shops? Ø Surveys by the AA, RAC and others have
shown that motorists are less resistant to higher parking charges if the
money is dedicated to spending on alternatives. Ø Would the land currently used for car
parking be better used for another purpose? Ø It is not good to be dependant upon
petrol. More money would stay within
the local economy if spent upon bus fares rather than upon cars. Ø We are currently the local authority with
the highest rates of walking in the UK. Ø To ease congestion more cycle and walk ways
could be provided, more jobs could be situated in the main towns, the £1 flat
fare and concessions could be extended to island trains and pedestrian
priority lanes could be created in towns between bus and rail stations. |
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6. To
receive evidence from Mr Steve Porter, Quality Transport Partnership |
Key points: Ø £100 would be a better price for the
parking permit. Ø Variable permits which encourage journeys
to peripheral towns might be helpful |
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Action required |
To investigate other Local Authorities in relation to the £50 parking
permit |
Overview and
Scrutiny team |